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Re: POint of Sale Device
From: Clyde Valdez <clyde () BERKELEY EDU>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:20:51 -0700
A list of VISA approved PIN Entry Devices (PCI and pre-PCI) can be found online at http://www.visa.com/pin. The footnotes contain specific information. At last count there are 89 vendors, 305 devices on the list. Visa PIN Security for Merchants http://partnernetwork.visa.com/dv/pin/pdf/BP_US.pdf -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[SECURITY] POint of Sale Device From: Hull, Dave <dphull () KU EDU> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Date: Fri May 18 2007 14:33:15 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
I imagine you'll have to break out your oscilliscope and multimeter. I suspect that these POS machines are subject to side-channel attacks in the lab, but I'd guess it would difficult to pull something off in the real world. A quick glance through various documentation on these devices indicates that they have 64K - 128K EPROMs, that is more than enough to store thousands of credit card numbers. The EPROMs have battery backup so if the CC data is stored locally, it could persist through a power outage. I'm guessing that the Payment Card Industry has issued standards for these devices and that document may layout what data can be stored for later retrieval. I don't know if these devices have to comply with PCI DSS. Here's some possibly useful information: http://www.merchantexpress.com/terminals.htm http://www.cdeinc.com/remanufacturerepairs.html http://www.dunfield.com/dave/readme.txt There's an interesting blurb in this pdf: http://www.greensheet.com/pdf/060401.pdf "In this most recent compromise, most agree that fraudsters copied card data, cardholder verification value (CVV) and card value code (CVC), from magnetic stripes at POS terminals." I wonder how that worked exactly. I see that a person can purchase these POS devices on eBay. A well funded attacker could probably manufacture bogus devices that would pass collected data to the credit card processor and an attacker.
Current thread:
- POint of Sale Device Gibson, Nathan J. (HSC) (May 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: POint of Sale Device Bill Ogle (May 10)
- Re: POint of Sale Device Valdis Kletnieks (May 11)
- Re: POint of Sale Device Jim Dillon (May 11)
- Re: POint of Sale Device Gibson, Nathan J. (HSC) (May 11)
- Re: POint of Sale Device Duksta, John C. (May 17)
- Re: POint of Sale Device Hull, Dave (May 18)
- Re: POint of Sale Device Clyde Valdez (May 18)
