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Re: RIAA timestamps off
From: Jeff Holden <JHolden () MTSAC EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:52:49 -0700
IANAL but I don't think they have a legal leg to stand on if they don't download the offending material to verify that it is in fact what the label says it is. Just because the file is named SomaRIAAartist.mp3 doesn't mean it is. I don't think it is a crime to mislabel content and put it on P2P sites. I have heard of DMCA notices being sent just because the name of the song was the same as an RIAA artist even though the actual song was from an Indie Artist who licensed his works with Creative Commons License. I would guess that most DMCA notices are generated from automated scanners that send off DMCA notices if a file name matches a regular expression. That being said we take the notices very serious and do our part to make sure that our students and staff are not sharing copy righted material. Thanks, Jeff Holden, CISSP, RHCE Manager, Network & Data Security Mt. San Antonio College Jeff Kell <jeff-kell () UTC EDU> 09/25/2007 10:38 AM Please respond to The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> To SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU cc Subject Re: [SECURITY] RIAA timestamps off Scholz, Greg wrote:
So UserX logs into limewire, song list is made public. 10 hrs later song list is still public but no one may be actually pulling the data. Technically it is the making of the infringing material available that is the "crime" so the user is "seen" and is sought by the RIAA.
And the list and it's availability are advertised even if there is a firewall, NAT, or any other "block" preventing incoming connections from occurring at all. Back in the days of long-forgotten accuracy, the reports had an IP/port/timestamp that you could track to netflow (most of the time), even if there were 0 bytes transferred (and is even that a violation?). Jeff
Current thread:
- RIAA timestamps off Sweeny, Jonny (Sep 25)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Bob Bayn (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Roger Safian (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Marc Scarborough (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Mike Lococo (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Jeff Holden (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Scholz, Greg (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Jeff Kell (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Jeff Holden (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Steve Worona (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Scholz, Greg (Sep 25)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Alex Everett (Sep 28)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off David Taylor (Sep 29)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Valdis Kletnieks (Sep 29)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Rick Coloccia (Sep 30)
- Re: RIAA timestamps off Ken Connelly (Sep 30)
