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Re: Facts, not Fiction
From: Chris Brenton <cbrenton () sover net>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:25:15 -0500
Bennett Todd wrote:
I guess I have a bit of a problem with blanket statements like this one. It insinuates that there is a "one size fits all" solution to protecting a network which is clearly not the case. A risk analysis should be performed in order to determine what level of security is actually required.I hadn't really thought about it in as many words before, but now that you rub my nose in it, I guess I have come to endorse a bit of a ``one size fits all'' approach to firewalls. Really, it's more like a fewsizes fit all, though.
I had no intentions of "rubbing anyone's nose" on this issue. You are absolutely right. When you find something that works, it's human nature to stick with it.
- If it's a tiny shop with a trivial security policy and a near-zero budget, set 'em up with a trivial little firewall based on my OS of choice (Red Hat Linux)
I've done this myself. The bonus I see to this is that if your client does not understand the system, they are less likely to shoot themselves in the foot. Checking logs now becomes a bit of a problem though. An easy fix is to simply parse the logs and dump them in a mail file so the local admin can pick them up with a POP or IMAP client. This of course assumes that they will at lease understand what they are looking at.
- If there's enough more money around to be able to afford it, toss a Cisco 2500-series router just outside the above fw configured as a screening router.
Depends on the connect speed. The 2500 is a "run from flash" machine which makes it a little slow compared to the larger boxes (especially once you add access lists). If the connect speed is 384K or less (common for small shops), it should be fine. If it's a full T1, look to a faster router.
My feeling is that a risk analysis is valuable, but that you only really get the benefit of it when you have a nearly-infinite budget; when funds are tight the cost of the detailed analysis comes out of the implementation budget,
This depends on how "in depth" you want to get. To go back to my original examples, an evaluation of the Mac only network could easily take place during the initial planning meeting. With the case involving the bank, you are absolutely right. I would expect to spend at least a week or more performing the evaluation before I would make any specific suggestion. Yes this adds to the cost of the implementation but it could be considered negligible compared to what the company has to lose. I've found that this process is somewhat self adjusting. The companies that have the most to lose are usually in the best position to afford going through a needs analysis. Again, this goes back to the point of "one size does not fit all". Some companies will need to have a real evaluation performed while others can get away with just a quick review. Cheers, Chris ****************** cbrenton () sover net http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0782120822/9715-9242453-752818 Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Current thread:
- Facts, not Fiction Hartmut . Fehling (Nov 07)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 07)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Darren Reed (Nov 08)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Bennett Todd (Nov 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Facts, not Fiction Andreas Siegert (Nov 12)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Chris Brenton (Nov 13)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Bennett Todd (Nov 14)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Chris Brenton (Nov 14)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction chuck yerkes (Nov 14)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Chris Brenton (Nov 15)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Chris Brenton (Nov 13)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Andreas Siegert (Nov 24)
- Re: Facts, not Fiction Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 07)
