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RE: Gauntlet & NTLM
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () nfr net>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:50:12 -0400
PPTP uses PPP's security extensions to encrypt the tunnel. You should be looking at the PPP RFC's or drafts.
Ah! That's an interesting situation. Does anyone actually *implement* the PPP RFCs for security? I know that there are all kinds of useful things in the RFC but I don't think, for example, that my W95 PPP stack supports encryption. [A general class of security problems occurs when one layer rests on another and the lower layer's security properties have not yet been implemented or contain flaws. I can imagine an un-funny situation in which PPTP doesn't do encryption and authentication because that's PPP's problem, and PPP doesn't do encryption because that's IPSEC's problem, and IPSEC isn't available.] mjr. -- Marcus J. Ranum, CEO, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. work - http://www.nfr.net home - http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr
Current thread:
- Gauntlet & NTLM Richard Trott (Oct 13)
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- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Linwood Ferguson (Oct 13)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Craig Brozefsky (Oct 13)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Ge' Weijers (Oct 13)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Craig Brozefsky (Oct 13)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Aleph One (Oct 14)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 14)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Ge' Weijers (Oct 14)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Magossa'nyi A'rpa'd (Oct 15)
- PPTP viability (was RE: Gauntlet & NTLM) Philip Cox (Oct 15)
- Re: PPTP viability (was RE: Gauntlet & NTLM) Adam Shostack (Oct 15)
- Re: PPTP viability (was RE: Gauntlet & NTLM) Ge' Weijers (Oct 15)
- Re: PPTP viability (was RE: Gauntlet & NTLM) Craig Brozefsky (Oct 15)
- Re: PPTP viability (was RE: Gauntlet & NTLM) Jyri Kaljundi (Oct 17)
- Re: PPTP viability (was RE: Gauntlet & NTLM) Kent Crispin (Oct 21)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Craig Brozefsky (Oct 13)
- RE: Gauntlet & NTLM Ge' Weijers (Oct 14)
- Re: Gauntlet & NTLM (PPTP weekness) Chris Boscolo (Oct 15)
