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Re: Firewall administration.
From: Bennett Todd <bet () rahul net>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:59:11 -0700
[...] firewall experts are costly (if they even want to work permanently!) and training a person to the required level is also going to be quite costly. Thus relying on skilled people to configure them is to nobody's advantage so the presence of user-friendly interfaces becomes a must. [...]
I think _That_ misconception is gonna be hard to run down; I don't even have a clear idea who is guilty of promulgating it. I've only administered a few different firewalls, though I've looked at the support docs for a couple more, and so far I've yet to see one that's anywhere near as hard to configure as your typical Windows app. GUIs don't enter in to it, there just isn't all that much to do. Firewalls (at least decent ones) are not complex systems, by design. GUIs aren't a must; simplicity is a must. When you have a box that's simple enough to possibly be a good firewall, you don't need or want a GUI. The _hard_ part --- which a GUI won't help --- is providing technical assistance in the process of developing the company security policy; this includes educating management about risks and choices in protocols and internet services. Once that policy is done, the firewall config and admin is a piece o' cake by comparison.
I think the presence of an easily usable GUI is a *must* for any serious commercial firewall.
I think the presence of an elaborate GUI is a warning flag; the vendor has added complexity to try to help people who aren't competant to configure the system. That's bad for security twice. I don't want to be buying products from a complany that adds complexity (== room for bugs) to a product to help allow people who don't know enough to do the job right to give the appearance of doing the job. What's the difference between a router and a firewall? Well, the difference isn't visible to the kind of clueless putz who wants a GUI.
[...] But that doesn't justify the reviewers using the GUI as the #1 index.
Now _That_ I do find useful; with them rating firewalls by GUI, you can at least invert their results and get a good first approximation to a reasonable evaluation. Now GUIs aren't bad in all situations; they're sometimes marginally OK if you have a basically non-computer-related job, like say painting or process control, and you want to give the illusion that there's no computer here. And they're just the ticket if you have a potentially curious and interested user community, and you want to keep them dumb and powerless and ignorant by throwing an impenetrable barrier of complexity between them and their machine. But they don't have any good role I can see on a firewall. But then, I'm not a burglar. If I were, I'd certainly encourage people to go with GUIs to let them use untrained people to set up their ``firewall''. -Bennett
Current thread:
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem, (continued)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Paul D. Robertson (Sep 28)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Jyri Kaljundi (Sep 29)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Aleph One (Sep 28)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem neil d. quiogue (Sep 29)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Aleph One (Sep 30)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem neil d. quiogue (Sep 29)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Darren Reed (Sep 28)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Bennett Todd (Sep 29)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Leonard Miyata (Sep 30)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Anton J Aylward (Sep 28)
- Firewall administration. Darren Reed (Sep 29)
- Re: Firewall administration. Bennett Todd (Sep 30)
- Firewall administration. Darren Reed (Sep 29)
- RE: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Itai Dor-on (Sep 28)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Bennett Todd (Sep 29)
- RE: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Dana Nowell (Sep 29)
- Re: firewalls and the incoming traffic problem Paul D. Robertson (Sep 28)
