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Re: ICMP Packets.
From: tqbf () pobox com
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:25:48 -0500 (CDT)
You could consider adding "source quench" ICMP messages to the "let through" list.
Why? Source quench is deprecated (generating even more traffic in diagnostic messages as a result of congestion isn't the best design), and some operating systems may misbehave in reacting to them.
"Time exceeded" is needed for traceroute (and in an ever growing internet, you may need to be aware of boxes with low default ttl's).
There are only two different methods I'm aware of to map remote network topologies (record-route and TTL modulation). Network topology is extremely valuable information for an attacker. Since blocking TTL- exceeded messages is an effective way to prevent this information from leaking, filtering it seems to make much more sense to me than leaving it open for the sake of it's limited diagnostic value. This is as opposed to filtering, say, ECHO-REQUEST messages --- if you think this is preventing anyone from finding live machines on your network, the false sense of security you're giving yourself by filtering these messages is much more damaging than the information you leak by not doing so. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas H. Ptacek The Company Formerly Known As Secure Networks, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pobox.com/~tqbf "If you're so special, why aren't you dead?"
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- Re: ICMP Packets. Paul D. Robertson (Jun 05)
- Re: ICMP Packets. Don Kendrick (Jun 02)
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- Re: ICMP Packets. matthew green (Jun 04)
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- Re: ICMP Packets. Aleph One (Jun 09)
- Re: ICMP Packets. Perry E. Metzger (Jun 03)
- Re: ICMP Packets. Don Kendrick (Jun 02)
- Re: ICMP Packets. Ge' Weijers (Jun 05)
- Re: ICMP Packets. Bennett Todd (Jun 05)
- Re: ICMP Packets. tqbf (Jun 04)
- Re: ICMP Packets. Paul D. Robertson (Jun 05)
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