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RE: tunnel vs open a hole
From: "Sloane, David" <DSloane () vfa com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:40:08 -0400
I was just about to ignore this ever-expanding thread when this post from Mr. Ranum caught my attention. Every aspect of the problem is addressed by open-source software development. -----Original Message-----
From: Marcus J. Ranum [mailto:mjr () ranum com]
EVERY ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM MUST BE ADDRESSED AT ONCE. If you fix all of the problems below but one you've still accomplished
nothing:
- We need to change how execs manage software companies
OSS has project leaders instead of execs. Their credibility is largely based on the quality of software they produce.
- We need to change customer's purchasing patterns
Done. OSS purchasing is generally limited to custom-packaged software, support and consulting.
- We need to change how software middle managers manage software projects
With a few exceptions (Ximian? Red Hat?) there are no managers in OSS, middle or otherwise.
- We need to change engineering practices and get engineers to write
better code
and do it faster
Good OSS software has broad, fast peer-review. Bug-fixes in good projects (Apache, nmap, Evolution, etc.) come fast on the heels of bug reports.
- We need to change how software is marketed (as long as it's
cost-effective
to just call your product Secure-* rather than make it secure,
then > > > that's what'll happen...) OSS marketing, especially at the packaged-product level, ranges from limited to nonexistent. Peer-review of code makes marketing much less relevant. Software that doesn't meet security requirements can be re-written or replaced without losing software-license investment dollars. It's not a perfect model, but it sure turns each of these problems on its ear. Whether the result is better or worse... well, it's hard to make things much worse, isn't it? disclaimer: My involvement with open-source is limited to OSS Windows apps (including Apache) and tinkering with Linux at home. Most of my work time is spent managing Windows servers. -David Sloane _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Gary Flynn (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Mark Gumennik (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Julian Gomez (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 16)
