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Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network
From: Chuck Swiger <chuck () codefab com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:38:33 -0400
Frank Knobbe <fknobbe () knobbeits com> wrote:
We should start treating the Internet like the (or an) environment (well... which is actually is one, isn't it?). Let's reduce our amount of data/traffic pollution... not for the Internet's sake, but for the sake of our Internet neighbors.
Well said.
Perhaps we need to start thinking in less selfish terms. When designing firewall policies, we need to keep not only our own security in mind, but also that our of fellow Internet users. At least, be aware that you are sending data out in return for receiving data in...
There is nothing wrong with being selfish. People should determine what they feel is in their own self-interest, and work towards their own goals, without any apologies or guilt. It's often possible to act purely out of self-interest yet perform actions which benefit others as well as just yourself. Given the choice, I prefer to be in situations where what I would do for my own selfish benefit is the same as or similar to what I would do for the benefit of others.
By looking for those situations, and by looking to work with other people who are honest about what they want, you can at least reduce the level of bullshit immediately around you. Sometimes, at least on a good day, you might even find that the team can work together more effectively by acknowledging private and well as shared goals.
The bad things we associate with "being selfish" really have more to do with people who aren't willing to admit acting for themselves. Some go to great lengths to conceal the benefits they receive from actions supposedly taken on the behalf of others or for "the public good". Fortunately, it tends to be easy to recognize people who make a habit of this form of deception, once you know to look for it.
The next time you find yourself with a bit of skepticism about a situation, go up to one of the players and flat out ask 'em what it is that they hope to gain for themselves. If they aren't willing to look you in the eyes and answer-- if they stutter and stall, if they evade the question or pretend that what you asked doesn't make sense-- watch out.
-- -Chuck _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Hugh Blandford (May 27)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Paul Robertson (May 27)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Tina Bird (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Frank Knobbe (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Chuck Swiger (May 30)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Frank Knobbe (May 31)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Tina Bird (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Paul Robertson (May 27)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Hugh Blandford (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Paul Robertson (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Bill Royds (May 30)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Paul Robertson (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network ark (May 28)
- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network Paul Robertson (May 28)
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- Re: Benefit of firewall over NAT-only 'protected' network salgak (May 28)
