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Re: Firewalls that generate new packets..
From: <lordchariot () embarqmail com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:12:27 -0500
That's pretty much the delineation between Packet-filtering firewalls and Application-layer proxies. Here's the lame analogy I use to explain it to management. Let's say I need to cross the US-Canada border. If I drive, I get to the border crossing, show my passport, talk to the guard and explain where/why I'm going and usually just continue with a 'Have a Nice Visit' Comment. If they are a 'Deep Inspection' border guard, sometimes they open the trunk to take a peak inside, but since I'm not that suspicious, I've never had my luggage opened despite the fact I could easily have smuggled contraband. If my car (my packet) had anything attached to it that could be hazardous, it would more than likely to get through and activate its maliciousness on the other side. If I fly instead. I leave my packet (car) at the airport. I go through multiple identity checks. I have my payload (luggage) x-rayed, sometimes opened and searched, my carry on gets swabbed for 'badness', every pocket, zipper and crevass of my laptop case gets rubber-gloved. Sometimes they even find my lighter. I finally get on the flight, go through the other side, go through customs again, rent a car and drive to my destination. The original packet (car) remains at home, but my payload and myself have been re-written to the shiny new rental car. Basically, I've been proxied. I told you it was lame, but it works for my family and neighbors when I tell them what I do.
-----Original Message----- From: firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv icsalabs com [mailto:firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv icsalabs com] On Behalf Of Kelly Robinson Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:59 PM To: firewall-wizards () listserv icsalabs com Subject: [fw-wiz] Firewalls that generate new packets.. Some firewalls, after receiving a packet, generate a new packet and populate it with data from the original, rather than forwarding the same packet that was received. What are the advantages and disadvantages of this approach? And does anyone have any examples of any firewalls that do this on the market? Thanks - k
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- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul D. Robertson (Nov 25)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul Melson (Nov 23)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul D. Robertson (Nov 23)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Dave Piscitello (Nov 23)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul D. Robertson (Nov 23)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Patrick M. Hausen (Nov 25)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Dave Piscitello (Nov 25)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 26)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul Melson (Nov 25)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 23)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Dave Piscitello (Nov 21)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul D. Robertson (Nov 25)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 25)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Marcin Antkiewicz (Nov 26)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Paul Melson (Nov 26)
- Re: Firewalls that generate new packets.. Jim Seymour (Nov 26)
