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RE: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen
From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:50:37 -0500
Here's how the Weekly Standard explained NSA's monitoring program: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/569wwiwx.a sp?pg=2 Beginning in early 2002, the National Security Agency began monitoring telephone numbers and email addresses discovered in the computers, cell phones, and address books of captured al Qaeda operatives, and it has continued to do so, following resultant leads into an expanding, digital network of terrorism suspects. Even by Risen's account, an overwhelming majority of the program's targets are located overseas--currently "about 7,000 people" abroad, along with "about 500" other people they've contacted here in the States. Just the same, because nowadays "many purely international communications--telephone calls and email messages from the Middle East to Asia, for example--end up going through telecommunications switches that are physically based in the United States," eavesdropping on any call so routed "might be a violation of the regulations and laws restricting the NSA from spying inside the United States." Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Fergie Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:43 PM To: mattmurphy () kc rr com Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Not sure that is necessarily correct, but hopefully any unlawful 'broad-net' trolling of information will be brought to light (or not): [snip] For 20 years, Tice worked in the shadows as he helped the United States spy on other people's conversations around the world. "I specialized in what's called special access programs," Tice said of his job. "We called them 'black world' programs and operations." But now, Tice tells ABC News that some of those secret "black world" operations run by the NSA were operated in ways that he believes violated the law. He is prepared to tell Congress all he knows about the alleged wrongdoing in these programs run by the Defense Department and the NSA in the post-9/11 efforts to go after terrorists. [snip] http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1491889 - ferg -- Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy () kc rr com> writes: Perhaps not for the case of general-purpose filtering, as Richard incorrectly suggests is taking place. I do agree that an American government blindly filtering through data on its own citizens without any reasonable suspicion what-so-ever would be a huge no-no. However, in the case of the specific wiretap order issued by Bush (if what I'm hearing reported in the media is accurate -- a leap of faith to be sure), it seems only 500 taps were authorized. It hasn't been very clear as to whether this is tapping up to 500 people who happen to be communicating simultaneously, or 500 specific individuals. [snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Richard M. Smith (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen David Ulevitch (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jan 12)
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- RE: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Todd Towles (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Dave Killion (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Matthew Murphy (Jan 11)
- RE: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Richard M. Smith (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Dave Killion (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Fergie (Jan 11)
- RE: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Richard M. Smith (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Matthew Murphy (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Blue Boar (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Matthew Murphy (Jan 11)
- Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Nick FitzGerald (Jan 11)
- RE: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen Richard M. Smith (Jan 11)
