FC: Florida "legislative survey" does appear to be... real

[Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>]

[The dubious AONN.gov site notwithstanding 
(http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=aonn), if a .gov site 
points to this legislative survey, I'd also conclude it's real. --Declan]

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Date: Tue,  9 Sep 2003 11:42:33 -0400
From: Rick Zeman <rzeman () his com>
Subject: Re: FC: Is Florida government legislative survey real? or spam? 
or  both?
To: declan () well com
cc: politech () politechbot com

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On 9/9/03 at 1:32 AM (-0400), Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> wrote:

>From: ericgoldman () onebox com
>To: declan () well com
>Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:28:43 -0400
>Subject: FW: Legislative Survey
>
>I'm finding it hard to believe this is real, but I can't find an obvious
>flaw.  If it is real, this is a shocking display of gov't incompetence
>(check out the meek footer).  If it's not real, it's a pretty clever way
>for a spammer to get contact info.  Eric.
><http://www.myfloridahousemail.com/septsurvey/public/eupdate.php>

This is a good one.  My first thought was fraud, especially since every
technical indicator led that way (all DNS records being updated today, etc).
However,  <http://www.flsenate.gov/welcome/index.cfm>has a link to
<http://www.myfloridahouse.com/> in the lower left, and fishers haven't
managed to spoof .gov addresses yet.

This confusion is a good reason why the governments should only be using
.gov, .mil, or state.us addressing.

Regards,

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To: declan () well com
Cc: hmurray () suespammers org
Subject: Re: FC: Is Florida government legislative survey real? or spam? or
 both?
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 02:10:59 -0700
From: Hal Murray <hmurray () suespammers org>

> If it is real, this is a shocking display of gov't incompetence

Looks that way to me.

google-groups gets only one hit on myfloridahousemail, but that says it
represents "many" hits.

IP whois on www.myfloridahousemail.com => 206.201.185.71 says:
OrgName:    Florida Legislative Data Center
OrgID:      FLDC-1
Address:    111 W. Madison St. Rm.G08
City:       Tallahassee
StateProv:  FL
PostalCode: 32399-1400
Country:    US

Whois on myfloridahousemail.com says:
    Florida House of Representatives (TKVSHKZAXD)
   402 S. Monroe Street
   1201 The Capitol
   Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300
   US

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 13:02:44 +0200
Subject: Re: Florida government legislative survey real?
From: Gregoire Seither <gregoire () pobox com>
To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Cc: <ericgoldman () onebox com>

Hi declan,

Does Eric know about www.samspade.org ?

The domain is owned by Florida Legislative Data Center, so this seems to be
legit...  and indeed "a a shocking display of gov't incompetence" :-))

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:36:26 -0400
From: Chris Scott <chris () hostorlando com>
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To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: Is Florida government legislative survey real? or spam? or
  both?

Declan McCullagh wrote:

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> From: ericgoldman () onebox com
> To: declan () well com
> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:28:43 -0400
> Subject: FW: Legislative Survey
> I'm finding it hard to believe this is real, but I can't find an obvious 
> flaw.  If it is real, this is a shocking display of gov't incompetence 
> (check out the meek footer).  If it's not real, it's a pretty clever way 
> for a spammer to get contact info.  Eric.

Hi Declan,

Looks real enough considering the domain registration:
   Domain Name: MYFLORIDAHOUSEMAIL.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      Florida House of 
Representatives  (ONBTLKQGNO)    baker.mike () myfloridahouse com
      402 S. Monroe Street
      1201 The Capitol
      Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300
      US
      850-488-6026
   Technical Contact:
      Network Solutions, 
Inc.  (HOST-ORG)               customerservice () networksolutions com
      21355 Ridgetop Circle
      Dulles, VA 20166
      US
      1-888-642-9675 fax: 123 123 1234

   Record expires on 27-Feb-2005.
   Record created on 27-Feb-2003.
   Database last updated on 9-Sep-2003 09:30:39 EDT.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   HCSSUN01.HCS.NET             204.194.36.14
   HCSTLH01.HCS.NET             204.194.36.2

hcs.net hosts much (if not all) of the State's Web sites and DNS--see also 
WHOIS and a traceroute for sunbiz.org, the Fla. Dept. of State's site.

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Chris Scott







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