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Re: Malicious use of grc.com


From: hellNbak <hellnbak () nmrc org>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:25:57 -0500 (EST)


      I disagree.  Were my intentions malevolent, the last thing I'd do
is launch an initial scan from my primary, secondary (or even tertiary)
systems.  When someone puts up a scanning service with weak or nonexistent
validation on who can use that service against what IP address, that sort
of thing is an invitation for net.abuse.


I agree.  For *most* regular people, this isn't an issue as if they are
portscanning a box they are doing so with permission - ie: an authorized
pen-test.

But, what if you wanted to scan a box without permission?  What about the
people who have reason to want to hide?  Yes, there are other methods to
do this but why not use a web resource and have the finger pointed back at
someone else.

That being said, one could assume that Gibson does log connections to his
web server and while he claims to not retain any of the scan results (do
you trust him?), I would not assume that he does not keep logs of all web
requests.  It would not be all that hard to identify someone attempting to
port scan someone else.  Makes me wonder why Gibson didn't bother doing
this in the first place.

      In my view, Gibson is irresponsible in setting up such a weak
system on his site.  I imagine others would be more forgiving had he not
gone off on a "Microsoft/DDoS" bender earlier this year.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.... heh.


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