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Re: Plain text password for Microsoft (icwip.dun)


From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:47:12 -0500 (CDT)

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Roland Postle wrote:

Recommendations
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Store passwords in an encrypted form

How are you gonna accomplish this since the password has to go 'over the
wire' in plaintext? To be able to authenticate with the password you need
to
be able to decrypt it.. right?

'Storing' the password in encrypted form would be quite easy to accomplish,
and it would at least stop the casual snooper. You could argue that the same
passwords /are/ encrypted when they're put in the registry, so why not in
.ins files too? It increases the security a tad.

Anyway, for a complete solution I think we should wait for... Palladium and
TCPA-based modems.

The question with Palladium is twofold, how quickly it can be brought to
market, and then how quickly folks are going to want to upgrade HW.
Therefore the initial spread, if it gains acceptance at all will be with
first time PC buyers most likely when/if it comes to market.

Somehow it rings here inline with the old try at the crypto chips a few
years back, I forget at present the term used for that fiasco.  Though
claims have been made Palladium will not make it capable to build in a
backdoor for the gov to decrpyt, one has to wonder how "impossible" this
would truely be.  I'm sure the crypto folks might have better insights to
this...

Thanks,


Ron DuFresne
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        ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***

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