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Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT?
From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom EU net>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:13:21 -0700
A NAT'd cell phone wont, cant ever, respond to an unsolicited connection request.A NAT is not a firewall. A firewall is not a NAT. Some vendors bundle firewall functionality with NAT functionality, just as some vendors bundle SNA with IP. Please stop perpetuating the myth that a NAT is a security device.
It is not a myth; NAT (PNAT, to be correct) just allow internal users to have SECURE access to the outer world without a reverce access (it is 50 - 60% of the firewall functionality). So, NAT is equal to the firewall for the outgoing calls. Of course, static NAT does not provide any firewall functionality, and NAT do nothing to protect inbound services, so to pprotect such services (if any exist) you need _real_ firewall. To protect internal network, there is not a best way than to have a NAT (of course, firewall with NAT is better, and all modern devices provide botjh functionality, but if I select what's better - NAT device without firewall or firewall without the NAT, and I'll have only outbound calls, I'll choose a NAT).
Current thread:
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Gary E. Miller (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Alexei Roudnev (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Ian Cooper (May 02)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Daniska Tomas (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Gary E. Miller (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Bradley Dunn (May 02)
- Re[2]: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Richard Welty (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Alexei Roudnev (May 03)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Daniska Tomas (May 02)
