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Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:05:02 -0800
The Internet has value because it allows arbitrary interactions where new applications can be developed and fostered. The centrally controlled model would have prevented IM, web, sip applications, etc. from ever being deployed. If there are any operators out there who still understand the value in allowing the next generation of applications to incubate, you need to push back on this tendency to limit the Internet to an 'approved' list of ports and service models.
bingo! and, if you want to see a particularly broken example, buy "internet service" from t-mobile gprs in the states, port 22 blocked, no smtp relay, ... "walled garden" mentality from the get go. randy
Current thread:
- RE: Anti-spam System Idea, (continued)
- RE: Anti-spam System Idea Timothy R. McKee (Feb 16)
- Re: Anti-spam System Idea Petri Helenius (Feb 16)
- RE: Anti-spam System Idea Timothy R. McKee (Feb 16)
- RE: Anti-spam System Idea Scott McGrath (Feb 17)
- Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Tony Hain (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino (Feb 17)
- RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Don Gould (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 18)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Randy Bush (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Robert E. Seastrom (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Nathan J. Mehl (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Randy Bush (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Stephen J. Wilcox (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Joel Jaeggli (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Alex Bligh (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Steve Uurtamo (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Alex Bligh (Feb 17)
- RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Tony Hain (Feb 17)
