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Re: BL of Compromised Hosts?


From: "Tom (UnitedLayer)" <tom () unitedlayer com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:38:23 -0800 (PST)


On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, william(at)elan.net wrote:
I find that most admins that decides on RBL lists are well educated about
what lists they choose to use are (the end-users are however not always
well informed about it and that is where most of the complaints are
coming from).

The fact that people use some of the ridiculous RBLs out there indicates
that there are still quite a few boneheads out there, and I'd be willing
to bet that they outnumber the clued ones.

You'd be suprised at how many times I've come into a consulting situation
and had to explain to executives that their problems came from some admin
using blacklists with high casualty rates and irresponsible practices
(SPEWS/etc). But hey, it gives me lots of consulting opportunity, so I
guess I shouldn't complain too much.

Every time someone gets fired/reprimanded for using SPEWS or some other
kind of list, I'm sure one more person springs up to fill their place.

I suspect that BGP admins are by their nature even better educated and
will likely do even more research prior to using anything.

Don't be so sure of that either;  I regularly find poorly configured
routers redistributing default, loads of /24s and even /30's into their
neighbors.



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