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Re: ICANNs role [was: Re: On-going ...]


From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 03:49:52 GMT


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[top-posting to maintain the entire context below]

I think Doug makes some good points here (with the exception of
number 6)...

- - ferg


- -- Douglas Otis <dotis () mail-abuse org> wrote:

On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:02 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, David Conrad wrote:
On Apr 1, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Gadi Evron wrote:

The one concrete suggestion I've seen is to induce a delay in zone  
creation and publish a list of newly created names within the zone.
The problem with this is that is sort of assumes:

What are your thoughts on basic suggestions such as:
1. Allowing registrars to terminate domains based on abuse, rather  
than just fake contact details.

This requires a separate agency tasked to respond to reports of  
crime.  Registrars have a conflict of interest (they want to be  
profitable).  Even answering the phone to deal with this type of  
problem costs more than a registration is worth.  Hence, it is easier  
to establish domain tasting which essentially drops this entire  
problem into someone else's lap.

2. Following these incidents as they happen so that YOU, in charge,  
can make these suggestion?

Often enforcement policies begins with a complaint.  But who is  
taking the role of enforcement?

3. For true emergencies threatening the survivability of the  
system, shoudln't we be able to black-list a domain in the core?

It would be nice if there were an agency that had a mechanism in  
place for routinely yanking domains that pose a public threat.  Who  
would you trust in that role?  Unfortunately, the US has lost their  
credibility as loudly echoed on this list.

4. Black lists for providers are not perfect, but perhaps they  
could help protect users significantly?

Black-hole or block-lists is where protection can be introduced,  
political push back will thwart centralized enforcement.  To support  
this mode of operation, a preview mode of operation would be highly  
beneficial.  Currently bad actors will keep such efforts in a futile  
feckless reactive mode.

5. Enforcing that registrars act in say, not a whitehat fashion,  
but a not blackhat fashion?

Of course a bad registrar might warrant greater scrutiny.  At what  
point would all their customers need to find a different registrar?

6. Yours here?

Perhaps only banks should be allowed to act as registrars?  At least  
they know how to check physical IDs.

- -Doug

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