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Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:30:08 +0100
* tomb () byrneit net (Tomas L. Byrnes) [Tue 04 Nov 2008, 17:51 CET]:
The concept of "Transit Free" is a political failure, not a technical one.
Yeah, networks should be free! And Cogent, if they don't get access to Sprint directly, should just set a default route over some public IX where Sprint is also present at to reach their network!! And then hack their routers to do likewise.
The protocols are designed, and the original concept behind the Internet is, to propagate all reachability via all paths. IE to use Transit if peering fails.
Yeah, the original concept of the internet. Like classful IP routing.
Not doing so is a policy decision that breaks the redundancy in the original design.
Because the original design totally had in mind established players locking out cheaper newcomers and explicitly specified a maximum band where prices for transit had to exist inside of.
Please stop it. We've had enough.
-- Niels.
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"We humans get marks for consistency. We always opt for
civilization after exhausting the alternatives."
-- Carl Guderian
Current thread:
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts, (continued)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 04)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Tomas L. Byrnes (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 04)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts michael.dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Paul Vixie (Nov 05)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts michael.dillon (Nov 05)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Church, Charles (Nov 05)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts david raistrick (Nov 05)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Kraig Beahn (Nov 06)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Lamar Owen (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Niels Bakker (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Larry Sheldon (Nov 04)
