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Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 09:27:13 +0200 (CEST)
On Thu, 3 Jun 2021, Masataka Ohta wrote:
Mark Tinka wrote:Which is the Stokab model.Does it use single star?The city should provide base infrastructure, lease it to operators atthe same price, and get out of the way. End of.With single star topology, that's fine.
https://stokab.se/download/18.310b3d5c174c5513aec263/1601471204836/Framtidens%20kommunikationsn%C3%A4t%20LOWRES.pdfIt's in swede-crypt, but it boils down to single strand of fiber from a central area node, to the basement, one for each apartment. However, the building owner has to arrange for the cabling within the building. It's single star, and typically the "node" it's all connected to will serve thousands of apartments. So an ISP will colocate in this "node" and can then rent fibers to provide FTTH services, at a fixed monthly cost (last I heard it was in the ~10USD a month range).
Stokab isn't alone in this model, they're not the most successful, there are better examples of this.
Sweden is also home to a lot of worse examples, all from "muni networks" that will be L2 transport providers, that will have L3 networks, to the ones who are L2/L3 but also sell services themselves. It's a zoo.
There is muni broadband that sucks and there is muni broadband that is great. Without defining what kind of muni broadband we're talking about it's impossible to have a productive discussion.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections), (continued)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Josh Luthman (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Baldur Norddahl (Jun 04)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Josh Luthman (Jun 04)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 04)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Jim Troutman (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Baldur Norddahl (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG (Jun 03)
