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Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public
From: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 12:39:09 -0800
I have read through this thread, and you'll pardon me if it sounds like yet another rehash on yet another list. You might take a look at https://packetlife.net/blog/2010/oct/14/ipv4-exhaustion-what-about-class-e-addresses/, which responds to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wilson-class-e. I'm not sure what has changed in the past lotsa years other than which prefix people want to make essentially the same arguments about. My observation has been that people don't want to extend the life of IPv4 per se; people want to keep using it for another very short time interval and then blame someone else for the fact that the 32 bit integers are a finite set. That strikes me as crazy. Put all of the remaining IPv4 prefixes (for some suitable definition of "remaining") in a bucket, decide that if they were all made unicast IP address space that would add <mumble> microfortnights to the life of the IPv4 Internet, and think about what happens next. Immediately, we all go back to sleep, fail to update our applications and deployments, and when that time interval has expired, we all whine about the stupidity of the IPv4 designers that didn't not make IPv4 forward compatible with *any*thing* - the next step has to be a replacement - and try to figure out a way to represent more than 2^32 interfaces in a single 32 bit number (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-terrell-math-ipaddr-ipv4) or redesign the Internet in some way that would require as much effort and money to deploy as IPv6 has since its inception. If you don't think that's a true statement, I'd be very interested to hear what you think might be true.
Current thread:
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public, (continued)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Mark Tinka (Nov 20)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Greg Skinner via NANOG (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Carsten Bormann (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public bzs (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Masataka Ohta (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public John Curran (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public jim deleskie (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Justin Keller (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Jay R. Ashworth (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public William Herrin (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Fred Baker (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Joe Maimon (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public William Herrin (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Måns Nilsson (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public William Herrin (Nov 18)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Masataka Ohta (Nov 19)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Måns Nilsson (Nov 19)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Masataka Ohta (Nov 19)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Måns Nilsson (Nov 20)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Matthew Walster (Nov 20)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Måns Nilsson (Nov 20)
- Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public Jay R. Ashworth (Nov 18)
