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Re: Internet history


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 12:05:26 -0700


On 10/21/21 11:52 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Oct 21, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
[changed to a more appropriate subject]

On 10/20/21 3:52 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
On 10/20/21 3:26 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
Just as an interesting aside if you're interested in the history of networking, When Wizards Stayed Up Late is quite 
elucidating.
+10 to Where Wizards Stay Up Late.

I recently re-acquired (multiple copies of) it.  (Multiple because I wanted the same edition that I couldn't locate 
after multiple moves.)


One of the things about the book was that it finally confirmed for me what I had heard but thought might be apocryphal which was that one 
of my co-workers at Cisco (Charlie Klein) was the first one to receive a packet on ARPAnet. I guess it sent an "l" and then 
immediately crashed. They fixed the problem and the next time they got "login:". It also casts shade on another early well known 
person which gives me some amount of schadenfreude.
It was “LO”, and Mr. Kline sent the packets, but you got it essentially right.

Source: https://uclaconnectionlab.org/internet-museum/

The last picture confirms Mr. Kline sent the LO and crashed the WHOLE INTERENT (FSVO “Internet”) just a couple seconds 
after it started. I wonder if he will ever live it down. :-) Apparently at the time it was not that big a deal. He did 
the test at 10:30 PM. He did not call and wake anyone up, everyone had to read about it in the notes the next day.

My understanding is that really is IMP No. 1. Someone found it in the “to be scrapped” pile & rescued it, then they closed 
off room 3420 & made it a micro-museum. I believe the teletype is not the original, but is a real ASR-33. The Sigma 7 is a 
prop, I believe.

Anyone can visit it for free (other than parking, which is expensive near UCLA!). If you are near UClA, you should stop 
by. To be honest, it is both overwhelming and underwhelming. Overwhelming because of what it was and represents. 
Underwhelming because it is a tiny classroom with a half-glass locked door and a plaque in the basement of the 
mathematics department at a public university that looks like it was built in the 40s. I went to UCLA for mathematics, 
and spent quite a bit of time in that hallway without even realizing what that room was. (It was not a museum at the 
time.)

The destination was Stanford, iirc. I've always thought it was pretty odd that BBN essentially threw the IMP over the wall clear to the west coast. You would think they'd want something a lot closer to Boston to make for easier debugging. But I knew that I should have looked up the details :)

Mike


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