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Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements


From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 15:26:25 -0700

When I last got pricing on the MX10003 in fall 2021, I was asked if I
wanted pricing on something with exclusively 100GbE interfaces or with
10GbE capability.

I got pricing for both options.

Putting SFP+ 10GbE ports in a router of that total
chassis+RE+linecard+support contract price is an *extremely* costly
proposition on a dollar per port basis.

Would recommend that anyone who thinks they need them to look at ways to
put the 10GbE ports in some other device and attach that to the router.


On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 at 14:09, Brian <brian.bsi () gmail com> wrote:

From Juniper...........

"you are correct that there isn’t a native 10G SFP+ form factor offered
with the 304.



QSA adapters are qualified (say for example, Nvidia), and from there it
can support native 10G Bidi, WDM, etc. The economics per-port, obviously,
get a little expensive with this approach if a lot of native 10G is needed
and breakout isn’t an option.



Thanks!"



Oh and also I just got the call, Juniper is forcing a Price Hike in July.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:10 AM tim () pelican org <tim () pelican org> wrote:

The MX204 is pure shocker! Unless the MX304 will come with a
license-based approach to run at MX204 pricing, that is Juniper shooting
themselves in the foot.

Unless I'm missing a trick, the MX304 doesn't have an answer to
installing DWDM, bidi, or other fancy optics in the SPF+ ports on the
MX204.  QSFP+ breakout to 4 x 10G is supported, but only 4 x vanilla 1310
optics - you'll need an external OEO solution if you want fancy 10G options.

It otherwise seems a nice box on paper, although substantially more
expensive than the MX204.

Cheers,
Tim.




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